Notes for Azed 2,721

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Azed 2,721 Plain

Difficulty rating: 3 out of 5 stars (3 / 5)

I started off at the gallop on this one, thinking that it was on course for a difficulty rating of no more than 1.5, but by the time the last letter was entered I had adjusted that upwards significantly. It’s tricky to assess the toughness of a puzzle like this with several long anagrams leading to unfamiliar words, since an anagram solver will make short work of them, but I felt that overall this puzzle reached at least the middle of the range. In the light of the faulty clue (which I didn’t originally notice) and the comments of other solvers, I have raised the mark above the mid-point.  I didn’t feel that it was one of Azed’s very best, but it was an enjoyable solve nonetheless, and featured two old favourites, ‘mouse’ at 15a and ‘pud’ at 4d.

Setters’ Corner: This week I’m going to look at clue 25a, “The plash of oars I love, easy on the ears (6)”, where an anagram of OARS I is followed by the single letter representing ‘love’ in sports such as tennis. An area where I think it’s fair to say there is an almost complete lack of agreement among setters is the use of redundant articles (a/an/the) in clues. It is generally accepted that the hiding place in a ‘hidden’ clue can contain no unnecessary words except articles, so ‘Fellow in a French apartment’ for CHAP is ok, but beyond that it’s as clear as a particularly opaque mud. There’s no problem with ‘Argue about a boy’ for REASON [RE A SON], because the ‘a’ in the clue carries across into the answer, but what about ‘A builder in stone, a mother, and a male child’ for MASON {MA SON]? Sometimes the varying syntax of the surface and cryptic readings means that an article has to be omitted, but on many occasions the inclusion of an article improves the surface reading without affecting the grammar of the wordplay. I think that the modern trend is towards brevity, and the exclusion of redundant indefinite articles – I favour this approach because it also improves accuracy. There is usually less of an issue with the definite article, because…well, it’s definite. ‘The end of summer’ seems absolutely fine for R, as it is indeed the last letter of summer. But what about the clue here, and that ‘The’ at the start? I don’t like it at all – it suggests that there is only one possibility for the result of the rearrangement, when in fact there are 120 of them.

Across

7a Poet’s company, sad excluded from romantic enterprising (4)
The consecutive letters SAD are removed (‘excluded’) from a seven-letter word for romantic enterprising.

10a Daughter to bring up, I face gloom as of old (10)
A 1+4+1+4 charade of an abbreviation, a word meaning ‘to bring up’, the letter I (from the clue), and a word that might seem slightly counterintuitive as a synonym for ‘face’, but as verbs they can both mean ‘to point towards’. The answer is one of four similar words given by Chambers as ‘all Spenser’, but he can legitimately claim responsibility for only three of them, the other being the standard qualitative noun derived from the adjective.

13a Fish obtained on ship’s bow (4)
A three-letter word for ‘obtained’ follows (‘on’) the first letter (‘bow’) of ‘ship’.

14a Expression from arbitrator and what he administers? (6)
The arbitrator is a three-letter informal term associated with sports such as football, while ‘what he administers’ is a word taken into the English language directly from Latin and meaning ‘law’.

15a Mouse producing squeak between King and Queen? (6)
An Azed favourite is ‘mouse’ in the sense of a black eye (although I tend to think of it more as the sort of swelling that appears around a boxer’s eye and which will have the trainer reaching for the ice-cold metal plate which they will apply to it during the intervals between rounds). The wordplay here has the chess-and-cards abbreviation for ‘king’ and the cipher of Queen Elizabeth being placed either side of the sort of squeak that in The Beano would have been emitted by Walter the Softy after discovering a mouse (of the rodent variety) that Dennis the Menace had placed in his desk, satchel etc.

17a Purse firm becomes cast if this (4)
When you see ‘if this’ at the end of an Azed clue for a four-letter entry, there’s a strong likelihood that the answer is going to be ‘xISy’, where one word becomes another ‘if x is y’. Sometimes both the ‘before’ and ‘after’ words are on view in the clue, but here you have to first find a suitable synonym for ‘firm’ (as a dye or a boat might be) that differs by one letter from CAST.

33a Recognizes what’s broadcast, start to finish (4)
The first two words of the wordplay in this clue need to be interpreted as something like “What’s another word for ‘broadcast’?” The first letter of that word then needs to be moved to the end (‘start to finish’).

34a To prepare e.g. fish in kitchen, see e.g. Sam as cutting back here and there (7)
A five-letter word for something of which Sam is an example, as is Vanya, has the letters of AS (from the clue) inserted (‘cutting’) separately (‘here and there’) and in reverse order (‘back’).

Down

1d Flank is replacing one for groin (5)
I had carelessly failed to check the meaning of FLISK in Chambers, and on this occasion – my thanks to the correspondents who have pointed out the issue – my faith in Azed was misplaced, because I would have found no confirmation that it had any connection with groins. Here in fact we have a clue unique in the history of this blog in that there is no definition to underline because…there is no definition in the clue. FLANK with IS replacing AN is FLISK, but the word that means ‘groin’ is not FLISK but LISK. It isn’t a clue for LISK either – that would have to be ‘Lank is replacing one for groin’, which makes no sense. One correspondent has suggested that groin3 in Chambers could just about equate to FLISK (with the aid of a following wind and rose-tinted spectacles), but the fact that LISK answers the ‘groin’ perfectly strongly suggests to me that it’s just a faulty clue.

I can entirely understand why Azed would have given up on a wordplay involving LISK – I certainly couldn’t work it into anything that was close to satisfactory. My best alternative clue so far is “Scots dance tango, avoiding kilts abandoned after foxtrot”. I never said it was good.

4d Vintage pud that could provide stuffing for beanfeast (5)
If I see a pud, I generally eat it, but when I see one in an Azed clue I immediately think ‘fist’. To be fair, I’m not sure I would be so keen on eating a pud that was described as ‘vintage’, here included because the answer is a Shakespearean word, the result of rearranging (implied by ‘could’) five consecutive letters within (‘stuffing for’) BEANFEAST. I had assumed that they were the letters right in the middle of the word, but as a correspondent has kindly pointed out, they aren’t – this strikes me as being a bit weak.

5d Carriage support has enough power to drag behind (8)
A charade of a three-letter word meaning ‘has enough power to’ and a five-letter word meaning ‘[to] drag behind’.

7d Head of cuisine, male preferred to female? (4)
An &lit of a pretty basic kind, where the first letter (‘head’) of ‘cuisine’ and a two-letter word for a male are placed above (‘preferred to’) the usual single-letter abbreviation for ‘female’, and the whole clue provides a definition, or at least an indication, of the answer.

9d Examiners led astray about leaving out less PT (7)
An anagram (‘astray’) of LED contains (‘about’) a six-letter preposition meaning ‘leaving out’ from which the consecutive letters PT have been omitted (‘less PT’).

16d Typical of early bishop, mounting funeral with Gaelic John (8)
A five-letter word for ‘a Maori ceremony of mourning, a funeral’ which was unfamiliar to me but will, I’m sure, have caused occasional commenter Maggie no problems, is reversed (‘mounting’) and followed by a three-letter Gaelic form of ‘John’.

20d Loudspeaker to waver with being installed (7)
A six-letter word meaning ‘to waver’ has the usual abbreviation for with inserted (‘installed’). I do feel that the wordplay here requires a comma between ‘waver’ and ‘with’ in order for the setter to be  ‘saying what they mean’.

26d Registers in desks, top removed (5)
My first thought was that a six-letter word for ‘desks’ would be deprived of its first letter, but in fact it is an eight-letter word which must lose the consecutive letters TOP (‘top removed’).

27d This orange is inedible, round and green (5)
The answer is produced from the single letter indicated by ’round’ and a four-letter shade of green (Chambers doesn’t give it on its own with that meaning, but it seems perfectly fair). You might wonder why Azed hasn’t phrased the clue more along the lines of ‘Round green orange, inedible’, but I think that he was trying to indicate that the answer isn’t an orange, rather a word used to describe a particular type of orange, just as an Ogen isn’t a melon and Vera isn’t an aloe.

(definitions are underlined)

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20 Responses

  1. Mark Z says:

    Today’s Observer (25 August) has printed a comment on 1d in 2721. The clue “contained an incorrect definition and so were [sic] ignored when judging entries”.

  2. Iain A says:

    Ps … I too was misled by Gaelic in 16!!!

  3. Iain A says:

    Hi Doctor Clue,
    I need some help on 22 and 32 please- i can see the anagram fodder for 32 but can’t work out the solution. Thanks in advance!

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Iain

      22 (‘One among 10,000, without exception‘) is one of those clues where most solvers (me included) will get the familiar (2,1,3) expression which forms the answer and then resolve the wordplay, which has a single-letter word for ‘one’ contained by a word for ‘a myriad, or ten thousand’.

      32 (‘Bust of Shakespeare fan altered mistakenly’) – the anagram fodder is FAN ALTERED, the answer is hyphenated 5-5, it’s in Chambers under the entry for the 5-6 version where the second word has a more conventional spelling, and the ‘bust’ is the sort that might follow ‘booming’.

      Hope that helps

      PS I’m starting to think that this puzzle, including it’s faulty clue, was significantly tougher than my original rating. I’m going to put it up a notch.

  4. Hazel says:

    I think 1d is just a typo in the clue. I would suggest it should read “groan.”

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Hazel

      A mipsrint from The Guardian? Well, yes, that’s not impossible. I’ve got two problems with the ‘groan’ idea, though: (i) as far as I can see, the surface reading would make no sense, and (ii) ‘groan’ just isn’t a satisfactory definition of a Scots word meaning ‘to skip or cater about, ‘to be restive’, or ‘a whim’.

      But that’s just a personal view. If RJHe happens to be passing by, I’d be interested in his thoughts.

      • RJHe says:

        Search me – I came here looking for enlightenment! Must be a faulty clue, but I can’t check with Azed as he’s on holiday for two weeks.

  5. Norman says:

    I would welcome a comment on 23d. I know what word must replace ‘chance’ but why is it a synonym of ‘chance’ ?

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Norman

      23d – “Flowering plant: chance upon one when sun’s in (6)”

      The wordplay involves a four-letter word for ‘[to] chance’ in the sense of ‘to happen’ (Chambers gives ‘happen’ as a synonym for each of them) on top of (‘upon’) a single-letter word for ‘one’, the combination having the usual abbreviation for sun inserted (“when sun’s in”).

      Hope that helps. Note that ‘chance upon’ cannot indicate the four-letter verb, since ‘chance upon’ is a transitive phrasal verb while the required verb is intransitive (it would work only if the latter were also followed by ‘upon’).

  6. NiKKi Ellen says:

    Oh – ok. We all agree – faulty clue?

  7. Nikki Ellen says:

    A groin can be a timber. A flitch can be a timber. A flitch can be a flank of salt pork. I have been wandering in circles…
    Bad clue, or have I missed something?

  8. Steve says:

    In 1d I can see the wordplay, but I can’t see how it fits with the definition, which I assume is groin. It appears that I’m not the only one baffled by the clue as the Crossword Help Forum shows.
    PS Just seen NiKKi’s comment 🙂

  9. NiKKi Ellen says:

    1d The wordplay clearly indicates the answer, but I can find no connection to “groin”. Lisk, but where does the F come from?

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi NiKKi Ellen, and welcome to the blog.

      I think that’s a very good question! I remember that it was the second clue I ‘solved’ (after 1a), based entirely on the wordplay, and my mental note to check the answer in Chambers got buried, probably under thoughts of toast and marmalade. I didn’t mark it out for comment because – on the basis that FLISK = ‘groin’ – it was very straightforward.

      The clue is clearly faulty, with LISK rather oddly answering both ‘flank’ and ‘groin’ but the actual entry remaining undefined. Not even close.

      I would guess that Azed has started with LISK as part of the wordplay and has then changed tack but accidentally kept its indication as the definition.

  10. Griff Everett says:

    16d – I was held up for some time by “Gaelic form of John”.
    Surely that’s Eoin?
    Would have been happier with the clue if it had read “Scottish … ” rather than “Gaelic … “.

    • Doctor Clue says:

      Hi Griff

      I was mildly surprised, as I think of the name as specifically Scottish in origin (although I always think ‘Scotsman’ for IAN in wordplays is a bit loose, even if it’s better than ‘man’ for AL, TED, RON etc etc). But Chambers is the primary reference for Azed, and in Appendix A – Some first names we do indeed have

      Eoin, m (Gaelic, Ir) form of John

      but also

      Iain, Ian, m (Gaelic) forms of John

      so on that basis ‘Gaelic John’ is fine.