Notes for Azed 2,750
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Azed 2,750 ‘Mixed Foursomes’
Difficulty rating: (5.5 / 10)
First and foremost, huge congratulations to Azed on reaching yet another extraordinary landmark. A quite remarkable achievement.
To mark the occasion, we have a special, and it is one of those that looks rather more daunting at first blush than it really is. For starters, we can immediately identify all the Letters Latent clues, because the lengths of their grid entries don’t match the letter counts in the clues (I went through the puzzle and marked them as LL1 or LL2 depending on whether they would be losing one letter or two). Secondly, as soon as we can identify the ‘golden’ letter in any clue from a set of four, then we know that the letter for the other two special clues in that set will be the same – so if the DLM provides a superfluous N, then the letter to be omitted from the Letters Latent entry wherever it appears will be N, and the correct letter in the Misprint clue will be an N, eg ‘heat’ in the original definition could become ‘neat’.
I have included hints on selected clues, followed by a checklist of clue types. I’ll be happy to provide hints for other clues on request.
Clue Writers’ Corner: Our challenge is to write a DLM clue for the nine-letter word at 14d with an extra U in the mixture. There is no precedent when it comes to a competition DLM clue for a single word (with or without extra letter). In this puzzle, the DLM s are generally very concise, but as long as the ten-letter sequence starts or ends at the beginning or end of a word in the non-definition part of the clue, it is acceptable to include verbiage which contributes neither to definition or letter mixture (as in 2d and 16d, which look as though they might have started life as ‘wordplay delivers an extra letter’ clues). Ximenes’ DLMs were based on advertising slogans (and involved lots of cryptically redundant words), while the two Azed DLM comps have required multiple words to be clued, as in AZ comp 1810. I would suggest producing a definition which stands out from the crowd (and may consist of several words), keeping redundant words in the letter mixture part to a minimum, and remembering to include that extra letter. Although there was no ‘2,750’ theme to the puzzle, I wouldn’t be surprised to see clues being submitted which make reference of some sort to Azed’s cruciverbal longevity. Theoretically, the extra letter could come at one end of the string, eg in ‘IN VATs’ or TIN VAse’ for VAIN, extra letter T, but having it at the ‘open’ end (as in ‘in vats’) doesn’t strike me as being desirable, and you will note that in Azed’s DLM clues the extra letter is always to be found somewhere inside the mixture. I have never seen an ‘&lit’ DLM clue, although the description of the clue type as given in the preamble doesn’t preclude such a thing (this is an observation rather than an incitement).
Across
1a Islamite, a rake with bronzed skin (9)
The wordplay in this LL2 clue is a charade of A (from the clue), a three-letter garden implement akin to a rake (or a three-letter verb for what you do with such an implement) and a familiar three-letter word for bronzing of the skin.
7a Fronts of shirts pressed, usually dirty – one may end in wash (4)
In puzzles like this it’s easy to overlook a straightforward ‘take the first letters’ construction, here introduced by ‘Fronts of’.
10a Overly refined lady who’s complicated recipe to follow once (9)
An anagram (‘complicated’) of RECIPE is followed by a word with an archaic (‘once’) sense of ‘to follow’ but a range of current meanings including ‘[to] employ’.
15a Add too much filling in extreme dentistry (5)
A three-letter informal word (all capitals) meaning ‘too much’ is contained by (‘filling’) the first and last letters of (‘extreme’) ‘dentistry’. I am surprised to see the adjective ‘extreme’ used in this way; it seems little different to ‘central’ on its own indicating that the middle letter of a word should be selected, which is very much a no-no. Noun forms like ‘extreme parts of’ or ‘extremes of’ would be fine.
23a Astronomical unit accompanied by windy blast inspiring warship? (6)
A two-letter abbreviation for ‘astronomical unit’ is followed by a four-letter word for a windy blast.
25a To err yet have a second test (5)
The extra letter in this DLM clue is, technically speaking, ambiguous, but if Azed had wanted it to be an E he would simply have omitted the word ‘To’ from the beginning.
27a Piece of ballet, benefit including ten dancing (8)
A five-letter word meaning ‘[to] benefit’ or ‘[to] be of service’ contains (‘including’) an anagram (‘dancing’) of TEN. The corrected word in the definition describes an item of medieval armour; a regular correspondent tells me that in fact the piece in question didn’t form part of this item, its use being confined to earlier versions, but we won’t begrudge Azed a bit of anniversary licence.
Down
2d A submariner, ahoy, turned around (9)
The word ‘around’ plays no active part in this DLM clue.
3d Rendered slat, i.e. to pad out (7)
An anagram (‘out’) of IE TO PAD produces an adjective which can mean something along the lines of ‘dulled’.
5d Reduction to a fixed sum, deficient, always contained (10)
A term from the world of psychiatry for ‘a person who fails to develop mentally’ (ie [a] deficient) has a three-letter contraction of a four-letter word for ‘always’ inside (‘contained’). The answer is an archaic term which generally refers to the fixing of penalties or fines.
9d Run in wild speeds resulting in crash (7)
The usual single-letter abbreviation for ‘run’ is contained by an anagram (‘wild’) of SPEEDS. I had a brief concern that this group contained two normal clues (which would have made the competition interesting) before I spotted how ‘crash’ could be modified to produce a much better definition of the answer.
17d Nice dish, reek strangely circling rim (8)
An anagram (‘strangely’) of REEK contains (‘circling’) a familiar four-letter word meaning ‘rim’. The word ‘Nice’ at the start of a clue would normally set the ‘French word coming up’ lights flashing, but the presence of misprints in the puzzle opens up another possibility (thankfully not involving lice or mice).
20d Papal officers filling terms with sloth (8)
A five-letter word for ‘terms of life’ or the times of particular events contains (‘filling…with’) the sloth of two letters and three toes with which all solvers should have at least a passing acquaintance.
28d Mist approaching, but not cold at first (4)
A five-letter word for ‘approaching’ or ‘near’ is deprived of the usual abbreviation for ‘cold’ at its beginning (‘not cold at first’).
(definitions are underlined)
Clue Types:
Across
1:Letters Latent, 7:Misprint, 10: Normal, 11: DLM, 12: DLM, 13: LL, 15:M, 17:N, 19:N, 21:LL, 23:M, 25:DLM, 27:M, 29:LL, 30:DLM, 31: N, 32:M, 33:N.
Down
1:LL, 2:DLM, 3:M, 4:N, 5:LL, 6:DLM, 7:LL, 8:N, 9:M, 14:DLM, 16:DLM, 17:M, 18:N, 20:LL, 22:N, 24:DLM, 26:LL, 28:M.
I have the definition and answer for 19A but cannot fully parse the cryptic clue. The connection between the ‘inner’ part and its indicator eludes me.
Hi Blake
“Fish in water channels”. A three-letter freshwater fish that is regularly seen in cryptics (often in its two-letter form) is contained by (‘in’) the five-letter plural of a dialect word for a trench that brings water to a mill wheel; this one is usually spelt with an ‘A’ as its third letter rather than the ‘E’ that it has here.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the hint – I see it now.
Hello
Really enjoyed this puzzle and did it WITHOUT attending the Clue Clinic. Like Steve, I was puzzled re 12a but just knew it had to be an ‘o’ extra to spell out the mixed foursomes…
Used highlighters to identify the four types of clues which helped. Then could easily see which letter was missing.
Still no good at clue making, though.
Ursula
Hi Ursula
Excellent work! I like the highlighter idea – I decided to write ‘LL’, ‘D’, ‘M’ or ‘N’ against each clue, but a couple of times I thought one of these was the ‘special’ letter rather than the clue type!
Well worth having a go at the clue writing this month…all you need is a definition and a jumble of those ten letters that begins or ends on a word boundary…
I’m probably being a bit thick at reading the clue-writing instructions, but are we restricted to using the specific additional letter that Azed would have had to have used if he’d written a clue for 14d? I.e. the one that’s not accounted for in the 9-letter anagram for its clue type. I suppose it’s implied, but I’m not 100% sure.
Hi CG
Azed was, I think, rather constrained in terms of what he could write, given that he couldn’t explicitly tell us what type of clue was missing from the group, and therefore whether an extra/latent/misprinted letter was involved -or not, if it turned out to be the ‘normal’ clue that was absent.
I am confident that the requirement is for a clue which, when substituted for the asterisked clue, would produce a puzzle which complies fully with the preamble after the parenthesized section in the last para is removed, in other words a DLM clue with an extra U in the mixture.
Thanks, that makes sense, and it was that letter I was working (and struggling) with for my clue idea.
The only previous Azed DLM contest I could find didn’t appear to restrict competitors to the same letter, but that seems to have involved multiple words. Mind-boggling clue lengths.
(I’ve just noticed you actually mention the letter to be included in the clue in your preamble – and you also link to the previous contest that I referred to! I didn’t read any of that before posting – sorry.)
No problem at all. I would quite understand – for competition puzzles in particular – if someone preferred not to read the notes but wanted to ask a specific question.
I think Azed is making the misprints rubric unnecessarily difficult. It’s not immediately obvious which is the misprint and which is the misprinted letter. It would be much clearer if he simply had ‘the letter that is wrong in the clue’ and ‘the letter that it should be’. To begin with I had an assortment of letters, not the ones that were needed.
Hi Wil
I completely agree with you. The sort of explanation typically used in themed puzzles would result in something like “Each clue contains a misprint in the definition. In clue order, the correct letters spell out the same two-word compound”. I reckon that would leave little room for doubt.
That bit about ‘the misprinted letters (not the misprints themselves)’ seems about as confusing as it could possibly be!
Yes your wording is better than mine, and both are better than Azed’s. But there’s no point in suggesting it to him.
I have written preambles myself which I thought were fine until I saw the changes proposed by the editor! There can be a big difference between an instruction which is technically accurate and one which the receiver cannot reasonably misinterpret. I still remember a bit in one of the Unorganised Manager training videos where the UM (James Bolam) tells one of his staff to “pull your socks up”. I feel it’s the area where the absence of an editor for Azed puzzles is most obvious.
Hi, I am stuck on 1ac, anag of ahoetan?,and 1d, I have ??at, and 4d, ?r?oy?, also is 21ac radio ? de. This puzzle has taken up enough of my time! Any hints would be good.
Hi Fiona
I sense that you may be struggling with the Letters Latent clues, where the grid entry is usually a non-word. For 1a, you have the right answer and can put it in the grid – if you add the ‘missing’ letter at the start and the same letter between the O and the E, that gives you the nine-letter word that is defined in the clue (‘Islamite’). Similarly with 1d, the wordplay gives A plus the sort of renegade that is likely to abandon a sinking ship – adding one ‘latent’ letter between the first and second letter and another at the end will give you the six-letter defined word, meaning ‘to perturb’ or ‘to excite’. I think your entry for 13a is slightly wrong – you may have got the right nine-letter word (which has three Ts), but the ‘latent’ letter which needs to be removed is an O, so that will give you a ‘T’ at the crossing point with 4d, which should help with that one (an anagram + O – A).
Great fun ! Loved it !
The paper version was harder than the online version as the clues were not grouped in fours, so there was no blank line between eg 11ac and 12ac. That meant that it wasn’t clear that the groups of four were consecutive or that the same letter was used for consecutive clues. In fact I was expecting the nine letter compound would be spelled out consecutively, as other specials have done. Once I found lots of the letter O grouped together I realised something was up!
I got there in the end, but I think the paper version was at least a 6 or 6.5 out of 10.
Also in 12ac and 2d, the additional letter isn’t at the beginning or end of the word in the clue as described in the instructions. Or am I missing something?
What the description of the ‘modified DLM’ means is that the entire letter mixture, including the extra letter, either starts at the beginning of a word in the clue or ends at the end of a word. So SEND OUT would be fine for NOTED [U] but GONE DUTCH would not. Several of the DLM clues here (including 12a and 2d) actually satisfy both criteria, hence they (more than) fulfil the brief, although they could be considered slightly weak since only complete words are therefore involved in the mixture.
Looking more closely I see there’s a comma in the DLM instructions between ‘…letter’ and ‘beginning …’ which gives it the meaning you describe, rather than the one without the comma would describe.
Hi Steve
Having just looked at the version in the paper, I can confirm that you have solved a trickier puzzle than the one that I downloaded from the web site, if that makes you feel any better 😀
I think I’m becoming very dumb. I’ve completed the crossword, which, as you say, was easier than first thought – plus, of course, I’ve discovered this “two-word compound”. I’m living in the middle of Brazil now, but I spent my first forty years in England, born and bred. I am moderately associated with North American words, but I cannot for the life of me discern the relevance of this compound! What am I missing? The vaguest hints would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance.
😀 Imagine that the title of the puzzle is a cryptic wordplay…
“Oh Lord luv you!” – not only dumb – but blind! Thanks so much !!
Ditto, Paul. Great fun, but I need a lie fown now.
You were right: it wasn’t as bad as it first seemed. Thanks for the list of clue types — undoable without it. I confess, though, to not ‘getting’ the DLM clues.
Azed is extremely clever, isn’t he? Even the two-word compound, which, luckily, I found quite quickly.
Hi 🍊
Yes, I thought it was a nicely-pitched puzzle. DLM clues do nothing for me, although they are rare enough these days to have a certain novelty value! They really need to be combined with some other gimmick – in the past Azed has used them in rhyming couplets.